So called breakthrough cases are so common now, not sure why they
keep saying "Breakthrough cases" if it were a rare occurence I could
understand it.
One thing that the Left likes to do is wordsmith.
Sometimes they use terms incorrectly, changing the definition of those terms (ex: "vaccine").
Other times they use similar words to create impressions. Did you notice that Lefties live in "houses" or "estates", but Conservatives live in "compounds"?
So called breakthrough cases are so common now, not sure why they
keep saying "Breakthrough cases" if it were a rare occurence I could >>>understand it.
On one of the news shows/channels the other day, a lady from the
government suggested that the use of "breakthrough" was probably
no longer appropriate due to the number of cases in vaccinated
people that delta has caused.
I totally agree with her.
it's crazy how people parrot the bullshit that is told to them in the media. we've never heard of breakthrough cases of any vaccine until now. NEVER.
But our natural immunity doesn't seem to have a problem dealing with the mutations.
Of course, if the COVID "vaccine" was actually a vaccine, it would handle the mutations as well.
Sometimes they use terms incorrectly, changing the definition of those terms (ex: "vaccine").
Other times they use similar words to create impressions. Did you notice that Lefties live in "houses" or "estates", but Conservatives live in "compounds"?
Thumper wrote to Dr. What <=-
They also like to claim all Conservatives live in Trailer Parks....
DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-
But our natural immunity doesn't seem to have a problem dealing with the mutations.
Er, it does. There are many, many, MANY examples of people who have
had COVID more than once. even before the vaccines came about.
Once again, you're ignoring the J&J vaccine, which is a traditional vaccine and reportedly not as effective as the mRNA ones.
Thumper wrote to Dr. What <=-
They also like to claim all Conservatives live in Trailer Parks....
I thought that's where they said the White Supremacists live.
But our natural immunity doesn't seem to have a problem dealing with
the mutations.
Er, it does. There are many, many, MANY examples of people who have
had COVID more than once. even before the vaccines came about.
And so.... You only prove my point.
There's an old saying: You don't need to parachute to go sky diving. You need a parachute to go sky diving AGAIN.
Since, as you claim, there are many examples of people who had COVID more than once, those people recovered. Natural Immunity wins again.
Or are you buying into the Propaganda that there's a magical substance that will cure a virus forever? It's never happened before. That's why they offer a flu shot every year.
Once again, you're ignoring the J&J vaccine, which is a traditional
vaccine and reportedly not as effective as the mRNA ones.
A "vaccine" that kills people in other ways is not a vaccine either.
They also like to claim all Conservatives live in Trailer Parks....
I thought that's where they said the White Supremacists live.
DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-
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Re: Re: Covid Delta
By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on
Fri Oct 01 2021 08:25 am
But our natural immunity doesn't seem to have a problem dealing with
the mutations.
Er, it does. There are many, many, MANY examples of people who have
had COVID more than once. even before the vaccines came about.
And so.... You only prove my point.
There's an old saying: You don't need to parachute to go sky diving. You need a parachute to go sky diving AGAIN.
Since, as you claim, there are many examples of people who had COVID more than once, those people recovered. Natural Immunity wins again.
Or are you buying into the Propaganda that there's a magical substance that will cure a virus forever? It's never happened before. That's why they offer a flu shot every year.
Smallpox. Polio. Yellow fever, Rubella, Diptheria. all eradicated
from the USA thanks to vaccinations. Measles _WAS_ declared
eradicated, but a bunch of idiots went on a tear about vaccines being
"bad for you" and ... well...
here we are.
Hell, Smallpox has actually been eradicated from the planet, and Polio
is nearly there.
Once again, you're ignoring the J&J vaccine, which is a traditional
vaccine and reportedly not as effective as the mRNA ones.
A "vaccine" that kills people in other ways is not a vaccine either.
6 women got blood clots from the J&J vaccine, out of 7 million. Based
on numbers, you have a 2.4% chance of getting COVID-19, and a 0.05%
chance from dying from it.
Women have a 0.000086% chance of getting blood clots from the J&J
vaccine. The chances of a random person dying from covid are many
orders of magnitude higher than the chances of getting blood clots from
a vaccine.
The Smallpox vaccination had life-threatening reactions in 14-52 people per million. No one had a problem with it.
The Polio vaccination actually had a .0002% chance of GIVING You
paralytic polio. People were fine with it.
Not to mention all the people that have adverse reactions to any vaccination, which is far more common than any of the above instances.
So, what you're saying is that no vaccine ever developed is a
"vaccine", I guess?
effective in preventing someone contracting and transmitting the virus. Secondly, in order to have a chance at eliminating it, we need to know when people have it. But as many people seems to have this and are either asymptomatic, or have very mild symptoms, identifying those who have it is difficult.
This makes this disease difficult to eradicate. Also, it is likely to further mutate.
DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-
Smallpox. Polio. Yellow fever, Rubella, Diptheria. all eradicated
from the USA thanks to vaccinations. Measles _WAS_ declared
eradicated, but a bunch of idiots went on a tear about vaccines being
"bad for you" and ... well...
on numbers, you have a 2.4% chance of getting COVID-19, and a 0.05%
chance from dying from it.
also people think if they have the vaccine they are
bulletproof.
i have concentration problems now. i am doing dumb shit at
work that i would have never done before.
like stuff i'm programmed to do by muscle memory isnt
working anymore, so that's when i know something is up. -+-
i have concentration problems now. i am doing dumb shit at
work that i would have never done before.
I detect no communication changes from you. You're still
dishing out the same shit! :D
like stuff i'm programmed to do by muscle memory isnt
working anymore, so that's when i know something is up. -+-
Blame stress from thinking about what that covid-vacc-poison
might be doing to your brain.
Smallpox. Polio. Yellow fever, Rubella, Diptheria. all eradicated
from the USA thanks to vaccinations. Measles _WAS_ declared
eradicated, but a bunch of idiots went on a tear about vaccines
being "bad for you" and ... well...
All correct. And all of the above were long tested before they were recommended for everyone. So we knew the side effects (and worked to remove them) and knew how well they worked (and worked to make them better).
Where are the results from all the tests for the COVID not-vaccine?
Where are the studies showing all the side effects?
Where are the studies showing the long term results?
We have data showing that the not-vaccine doesn't work (as a vaccine).
We have data showing that the not-vaccine actually makes symptoms from the variants WORSE.
We have data showing a growing list of (usually really bad) side effects - specially in the young.
It made sense to give it to the high-risk people, since the risk of dying from COVID was about the risk of dying from the not-vaccine.
But there is absolutely no science showing that it will help the general public.
And then there's the Elephant-in-the-Room: Natural immunity - which the vast majority of the public already has - but the Left keeps ignoring it.
on numbers, you have a 2.4% chance of getting COVID-19, and a 0.05%
chance from dying from it.
I take a larger risk driving to work every day.
COVID simply isn't the problem the Propaganda Ministry - and shills for it like you - make it out to be.
My wife made our masks during the hieght of hysteria, we wore them out shopping
and such.
while they probably do help some indoors, I have seen people out walking the
dog wearing a mask nobody near them, people riding bicycles, in a car by themselves, it just makes me laugh a little, they're paranoid like plt.
it's good to be cautious but when you live your life scared to go outside that's a bit to Cautious.
Whre you are you getting your information from The GOP?You first... let me guess, the same resources that have failed time and
What it *SHOULD* have been, is try to maintain an
appropriate distance (6') in public, avoid large
gatherings, wear a mask indoors around other people, even a
cloth mask (while not perfect, will help)
Regarding any shutdowns, they should have centered around
large social centers (stadiums, theaters, churches and
bars) where people are close together for long periods of
time.
If they'd done that, and just that, it would have gone much
better. The messaging was inconsistent, politicized
bullshit for the most part. The reactions way over the top,
especially in Australia and Canada.
Right. Then, business could at least have been "as usual"
while avoiding bottle-neck lineups and crowded shops as soon as
lockdowns and stay-at-home orders were lifted, and.. many
businesses wouldn't have had to go out of business.
Anyone wearing a mask by themselves is an idiot, and you should probably avoid them.
Tracker1 wrote to Ogg <=-
Depends on the business... too many are and have been interdependent on on-demand shipments and limited inventory.
MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-
Anyone wearing a mask by themselves is an idiot, and you should probably avoid them.
i wear it because i forget about it or i'm just 'dressed' to go
someplace else ---
That's the lean inventory system. Many companies have gone to that over time. No warehouses, no stock loss. A big retailer here in Michigan doesn't have warehouses. They just have cross dock facilities. Manufacturer trucks pull in on one end, and unload. The stock goes through the facility, gets split up and comes out the other end to a truck destined for a store.
The problem isn't lean inventory. It's offshoring of manufacturing, which
Tracker1 wrote to Ogg <=-
Depends on the business... too many are and have been interdependent on on-dem
shipments and limited inventory.
That's the lean inventory system. Many companies have gone to that over time. No
warehouses, no stock loss. A big retailer here in Michigan doesn't have warehouses
They just have cross dock facilities. Manufacturer trucks pull in on one end, and
unload. The stock goes through the facility, gets split up and comes out the other
end to a truck destined for a store.
The problem isn't lean inventory. It's offshoring of manufacturing, which many
companies did to save money because of 1) unions demanding professional level
compensation for still-less jobs and 2) the gov't raising the cost of maintaining a
employee (think unemployment, insurance, gov't regulations, etc.).
... If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil . . .
Arelor wrote to Dr. What <=-
There is a bunch of markets where such a thing does not work at all I
am afraid. If you don't have deep stocks you cannot absorb spikes of demand.
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